Miranda (Fimbres)

Our Miranda branch is one that we know the least about.  The furthest we can trace back is to Manuel Miranda beginning at least in the early 1880s in the Territory of Arizona, which would make him one of the earliest settlers of Arizona.

Family oral history says he was a Yaqui Indian, although we now know as a result of paternal DNA testing that he was not full-blooded Yaqui.  The testing showed that our male line eventually traces back to Western Europe, and likely to the low countries of the Netherlands or Belgium. We do know that the traditional home of the Yaqui people is near the Rio Yaqui in northern Sonora state in Mexico, and thousands crossed into Arizona from Mexico starting in the mid-1800s to flee the military regime of Mexican dictator Porfirio Diaz.

The DNA testing also linked us within one marker to three separate individuals whose last names are Fimbres.  The testing suggests that approximately three generations back from Manuel, our direct male line meets with the three Fimbres individuals.  The Fimbres came to Suaqui Grande, Sonora State in the early 1800s, probably from Moctezuma, Sonora and before that Huasabas, where it appears that two “Basque brothers” arrived from Spain.  As a result, our theory is that Manuel’s father was a Fimbres who likely only fathered the child but was otherwise completely absent.  Therefore Manuel carried his mother’s maiden name of Miranda, and for this reason Manuel and his descendants carried the Miranda surname forward instead of Fimbres.

Manuel’s descendants lived in Arizona for most of the 20th Century.  His only son Francisco lived in the mining towns of Clifton and Ray-Sonora.  Francisco’s son Romulo lived nearly his whole life in Clifton before spending the final five years in Los Angeles, California.  Francisco eventually assumed his mother’s maiden name (Jordan) and had another family that carried the Jordan name instead of Miranda.  Their descendants continue in Arizona, with some branches in California.  In all, at least four generations of Mirandas lived in Arizona.

What is certain is that the Miranda family, with its mix of Native American, Spanish, Belgian, and even a touch of German-Polish blood (Sprinz branch), was among the earliest latin settlers in the present-day United States.  The Mirandas experienced the U.S. Civil War, the U.S. wars against the Native Americans, World War I, the Great Depression, World War II, segregation, and several waves of more recent latin american immigration to the United States.  Ultimately, they left Arizona for good in the 1980s, with some branches settling in Los Angeles, California and others in the Mid-Atlantic United States.

Related branches associated with our Miranda (Fimbres) line we are researching include Jordan, Hermosillo, Lucero, and Sprinz.

The beginning of our Miranda line:

34 responses to “Miranda (Fimbres)

  1. Al Miranda

    Yes you are correct in the fact that many indians did take on christians names, during the 1800s, many of the Miranda Clan came to the Americas in the early 1700s, as shlips mates or even as naval officers. I am of the Miranda clan from El Cargadero, Zacatecas, our clan where predominately fair or white complected some with blond hair an blue eyes, The Miranda Family in my tree dates back to early 1800s, My family came during the war , Diaz , Pancho Villa, Sapata , escaping with there daughters, to the safety of the American borders. The Miranda Family today is extremely huge and lives all over the United States, there roots coming from El Cargadero, Zacatecas, Spain, ,, Miranda De Elbro, and San Sebastion,, just can not make the first connection
    Al Miranda


    • Miranda Family

      Al, thanks for visiting and sharing the information on the roots of the Mirandas in Mexico. I knew about the city of Miranda de Elbro in Pais Vasco and assumed it was possibly a town where the name began. I also met a Miranda in Salamanca, Spain who told me the Mirandas were mostly from Northern Spain. I hope one day to learn more about our presumed “first Miranda” – it’s would be interesting to know why he chose the last name Miranda.


      • 3rd Culture Children

        Very proud of all the work you’ve put here. It’ll be a keepsake for our children, and the ones after them…. Much love, R.


  2. c

    I am the direct descendat of Refugio Miranda of the Arizona Territory. I am pleased to see that you have discovered much information.


  3. I am not related to the Miranda family but I own a bed from 1664 hand carved with the Miranda Coat-of-Arms carved on the back. I am 73 yrs. old and have owned this for 40 years. I feel it should go back into the Miranda family. If you know someone who is interested please contact me at the E-mail address below. I live in Virginia.


  4. Margaret

    There is a Jesus Miranda, who, along with my great-great grandfather Gabriel Fimbres Vasquez, was one of the first 7 or 8 Mexicans granted the right to homestead in the Arizona Territory (circa 1880). In order to do so, my grandfather had to sign a Declaration of Intent, which stated his intent to become a citizen of the United States and give up all allegiance to Mexico. He was born in the Arizona Territory but when it was still Mexico. We like to say he didn’t cross the border, the border crossed him!


    • lmiranda5

      Hi Margaret,

      Firstly, thanks for stopping by the site!

      As you saw on the site, we only recently found out that we are actually Fimbres through DNA testing – our closest matches all had the last name Fimbres, so we can only deduce that at some point our direct line ancestor kept his mother’s last name (Miranda). It’s still a family we don’t know much about but understand that they were in Arizona at least about 1880 and came from Sonora, Mexico.

      I’d be very interested in hearing what else you have learned in your research on these two lines in Arizona/Mexico.



  5. Margaret

    Hi Leonel,
    Thank you for getting back to me. I have documented my Fimbres line to my 3rd great-grandfather, Guadalupe Fimbres, who was born in 1808 in Moctezuma, Sonora, Mexico and died in Suaqui Grande, Sonora, Mexico. He was married to Josefa Vasquez and they had two sons, Gabriel (1844) and Bernardo (1850) Gabriel is my great-great grandfather. He moved toTombstone, Arizona in 1861 and died in Miami, Arizona in 1926. He married Macaria Pereida in 1865. Gabriel was light, with blue eyes and light brown hair. Macaria was dark, the elders in our family say she was either Yaqui or Apache. Another elder said she might be Papago. But we really don’t know. Bernardo Fimbres and most of his descendants stayed in Mexico. Most of Gabriel’s descendants are in Arizona and California.

    I am also working on some undocumented leads that Guadalupe’s father, Vicente Fimbres, was born about 1780 in Oposura, Sonora, Mexico and that his father, Jose Fimbres, was born about 1762.

    I am interested in finding out if we might be related. Do any of these names, dates or places show up in your work?



    • lmiranda5

      Margaret, those names are not in my files but I will check with some of my Fimbres primos to see if they have them. Moctezuma and Suaqui Grande in Sonora do seem to pop up continuously in any research I do on the Fimbres family. Our issue has been been connecting dots beyond about five generations back. Have you or any male family members done DNA testing? That’s how we even learned we were actually Fimbres! Let’s definitely stay in touch. Leonel


    • Nellie

      Hi Margaret,
      I’ve also traced my Fimbrez line back to Gabriel and Macaria. Their son Santiago Fimbrez was my great great grandfather. I don’t know to much on this line as my great grandmother Beatrice Fimbrez passed young and her children were adopted out. Have you gotten further in your investigation since this last post?


      • Margaret

        Hi Nellie. I have been away from my genealogy for the last 10 months, which is why I just saw your message today. Yes, we are related! Your great-great grandfather Santiago Fimbrez and my great-grandmother Guadalupe Fimbrez, were brother and sister. I was told they were close and that Santiago sometimes stayed with Guadalupe and her family. Ancestry says that your great-grandmother Beatrice and I are first cousins 3x removed. I was researching a few days ago & found Beatrice’s death record. I couldn’t find anything else so wasn’t sure if she had children. Would you be willing to share any of their names so I could add them to our Fimbres family tree? I have documented our Fimbrez relatives back to Vicente Fimbres in 1760, Moctezuma, Sonora, Mexico. I have a lot more to share if you’d like. Bye cousin! My best, Margaret Hoyos.


  6. Anonymous

    Hi pappy I got on your website and read everything its great! from cesar


  7. Manuel Antonio Miranda

    Hello everyone,

    My name is Manuel Miranda; my father was Luis Miranda; his father was Ernesto Miranda and his father was Manuel Miranda. I am very interested in finding out more about my last name and started researching and came across this post. My father Luis Miranda came to Arizona in the 1980s and he was from Durango, Mexico. His father, Ernesto Miranda was also from Durango, Mexico; my great grandfather, Manuel Miranda was from Zacatecas and that’s as far as I know.

    My father Luis Miranda had a sister, Margarita Miranda, two brothers, Ruben and Javier Miranda. I also know one of their cousins, Francisco. Now, I don’t think his last name is Miranda but he told me that my great-grandfather was Manuel Miranda.

    I’m just beginning on my research and hopefully can find more information. I currently live in AZ.

    Manuel Antonio Miranda.


    • lmiranda5

      Hi Manuel, thanks for your comment! As far as I have been able to find, our Mirandas were from Sonora. I have not made any Miranda connections to Durango although some related families were from there. The names you list are not familiar other than Manuel and Francisco, but the timeframe appears to be different. Stay in touch as you continue your research – we could always be distant cousins!


  8. Barbara Fimbres

    Hi I found this site when I was curious about my last name and its origins. My name is Barbara Fimbres and I am so thrilled by the stories written here. My father Benito Fimbres (was born in Sep 11, 1944 in Mexicali BC.) has told me stories of his grandfather and I remember him saying his grandfather was a miner in Sonora named Francisco Fimbres. I would love to hear more stories about my ancestors if there’s more. fimbresbarbara@yahoo.com


    • lmiranda5

      Greetings Barbara, how very interesting to read your note! I’m still looking into the Fimbres name and hoping to eventually find some clues that link our Miranda surname with Fimbres. According to DNA results, our male line is definitely Fimbres, but we still don’t know how far back. I’ll keep your email on record so I can update you in case we find any additional information. Thanks for visiting!


  9. Gary Tautkus

    Doris Tautkus
    Aug 17, 2018
    I was wondering if on the Greene side that we have some native Americans that were from Connecticut and Rhode Island that we are related too. This has been told many times to me from my father’s cousins that this is true.
    I will be very interested in your response.


    • lmiranda5

      Hello, and thanks for visiting. I have not heard anything yet about Native Americans on the Greene side, at least in our branches. The folks from the family that have done DNA testing showed no traces, but they were both females, so would have missed the male line. I’ll see if I can dig anything else up, but an interesting question no doubt!


  10. Rick Martinez


    Great information! My name is Ricardo Martinez and my Grandfather was Roger Fimbres who was married to my grandmother Senida “Jaramillo” Fimbres. His father was Alex Fimbres and my grandfather use to talk about cousins in Arizona and being of Yaqui decent. Although this was mostly told to me as a kid and I only knew a few cousins and family but as time went on everyone drifted apart. From what I understand is that my great grandfather Alex and grandmother Virginia parents first settled in California back in the early 1900’s. They were pig farmers in the Santa Clarita area. I know my great aunt Mary “Fimbres” had done a family tree but I don’t really know. If this sounds familiar or if you have any other information , please contact me. I’ve done 23andMe but there is only 2 Fimbres on it now and I am still kind of lost of where they fit in. Thanks and I appreciate the information on this site.


    • lmiranda5

      Thanks for visiting Ricardo! We’re also still trying to unlock the mysteries of the Fimbres family. There do seem to be quite a number of Fimbres families in Arizona, and many have Yaqui descent since the early Fimbres settled in Sonora (the traditional home of the Yaqui). I’ve linked with a few Fimbres families via Family Tree DNA and they know a lot about the early origins – Belgium to Pais Basco in Spain to Sonora Mexico, but getting us connected from there has been the challenge. I’ll make updates as I get them.


  11. Yvette Fimbres

    Fimbres arrived in Moctezuma Sonora in late 1700’ s. There were three brothers and a sister. Ramon, Francisco, Jesus and I believe the sister was Maria. They were all blue eyed fair skin blowfish brown hair. One of them was my grandfather. My dna came back 37 percent Basque 13 percent French some Indian. Both my parents were Mexican so I thought. But along with me and about her cousin we have a lot of European in us.


    • Edmund Fimbres

      My closest match of my YDNA is the Miranda family. They are 1 GD closer than to other Fimbres. I’ve reviewed various legal and business records from European sources. They demonstrate that the Fimbres seems to have begun in Belgium in Tullier (now a suburb of Liege). There are birth/baptism records (circa 1630) of a large family belonging to Jean Fimbres and his two wives. He seems to have married in succession to sisters from the Radeau family. From the records, it is apparent that his son “Johaness” left Liege and set up a silk importing business in Bilboa, Basque Country, Spain under the name of Juan de Fimbres in the 1660s. It was a large and successful business registered with the trading guilds in Amsterdam. Eventually, he made his brother Melchor a partner. He was so successful that he helped to bankroll repairs to Bilboa when it was flooded out in the 1670s Then in the early 1700s, their progeny (again 2 brothers) arrived in Huasabas Sonora claiming a Basque origin. Juan and Melchor had married Basque women and a generation or two later they were in fact, Basque.


      • Thanks for sharing this Edmund, I know you and I have been in communication regarding this close DNA match over the years. I have struggled to connect the Mirandas to the Fimbres line via records but continue the research. In any event, your deep dive into the roots of Fimbres coming from Belgium and later into Sonora, Mexico is truly fascinating. I am hopeful to connect the dots one of these days!


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